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i think if harry reid does it, fine. let him do it. we need to think of what the country needs more than what each party does and concerned about the election on january 3rd? if nothing happens, he may have to worry about the election, john boehner. what i would advise him to do, he doesn't seek my advice, let me give you some advice. be what you want to be. do what you have to do. and democrats will support you if you do that. >> do you think at this point there's even enough time to get a deal done? realist achally. >> absolutely. there is time. now, i know we went out of session today and won't be in session technically until monday. that can change over the weekend. through emergency. so what happens to saturday and sunday? i mean, we all rather be with our families and friends but the fact is america needs this done right now. you know what's disappointed me most of all, craig? talking heads, many of them on television and some members of my own party saying, well, it won't be as bad. we'll take it up in the new congress. i think
i think if harry reid does it, fine. let him do it. we need to think of what the country needs more than what each party does and concerned about the election on january 3rd? if nothing happens, he may have to worry about the election, john boehner. what i would advise him to do, he doesn't seek my advice, let me give you some advice. be what you want to be. do what you have to do. and democrats will support you if you do that. >> do you think at this point there's even enough time to get...
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>> it's clear from senator reid said, they are not going to touch social security. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have different ideas. they want to see more cuts in spending right now. >> arthel: thank you very much. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to expire on new year's day. if an extension of that is not passed, the farm policies would revert to laws back to 1949 and cost of milk, that could skyrocket. back then the government used a formula to calculate dairy prices that is much more expensive than it is today. one option said to be on the table is short term extension that would prevent milk prices from rising. >> arthel: to other stories. a judge ordering a psychiatric evaluation for a woman suspected of shoving a man off a new york public is way platform. he was arraigned last night on murder and hate crime. she confessed to pushing a m
>> it's clear from senator reid said, they are not going to touch social security. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have different ideas. they want to see more cuts in spending right now. >> arthel: thank you very much. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to...
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staffers and a majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell are trying to negotiate a scaled-down debt deal to avoid some of the fiscal cliff and take other major decisions on taxes and spending to the future. again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that framework to try to craft a proposal to pass both houses of congress. aides say it would likely increase the threshold for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to avoid paying the alternative minimum tax. an increase in the debt ceiling is not part of the discussion. that is significant development for house republicans who won any increase in the borrowing limit it accompanied by an equal amount in spending cuts taking the debt ceiling of the table making it much easier for the scaled-down version to be negotiated. from here senate le
staffers and a majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell are trying to negotiate a scaled-down debt deal to avoid some of the fiscal cliff and take other major decisions on taxes and spending to the future. again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that...
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we have senator harry reid on the floor. dagen: there is senator harry reid. >> it is for the date only. they will. dagen: roughly ten minutes each. >> mr. president, i was disturbed to read in the washington post this morning that some kind of agreements are being made here. somehow, the democrats have agreed to raise the level. dagen: we will monitor what is going on on the senate floor. we will see if senator harry reid has more comments to make. rich, my apologies for interrupting you and the congresswoman. i handed off to you. rich: this is where any time a congressional leader shows up, we are all over it. congresswoman, you are saying, the house has already voted to extend the tax cuts. tax rates go up for everyone or possibly maybe that five that 500,000 threshold. is that something you can still support? >> it was going to be 1%, on the top 1% for one year. here we are 100 years later and look at the mess. that is why we need systemic tax reform. what people want to see is us putting our focus on the spending side o
we have senator harry reid on the floor. dagen: there is senator harry reid. >> it is for the date only. they will. dagen: roughly ten minutes each. >> mr. president, i was disturbed to read in the washington post this morning that some kind of agreements are being made here. somehow, the democrats have agreed to raise the level. dagen: we will monitor what is going on on the senate floor. we will see if senator harry reid has more comments to make. rich, my apologies for...
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harry reid, the senate democratic leader is certainly very well-informed. he's kept apprised of what's going on just as the house speaker on the other side of the capitol is as well but these two men are probably hopefully going to work late into the night, maybe early in the morning to see if they can come up with some way to put this in real terms for americans, some way to avert the taxes for every american going up in a big way starting tomorrow night. >> so it's no burning the midnight oil for the senate because they're gone, and congress now, do we know? >> reporter: the senate has decided to formally -- the senate majority leader harry reid said about an hour ago that effectively there won't be any votes tonight. so the hope for getting a deal today that the senate can vote on which was the hope even going into the day, that's not going to happen. in fact, the house, they brought people back for a vote tonight just to have people here in case the senate could vote on something that they could send over to the house. none of that is going to happen ri
harry reid, the senate democratic leader is certainly very well-informed. he's kept apprised of what's going on just as the house speaker on the other side of the capitol is as well but these two men are probably hopefully going to work late into the night, maybe early in the morning to see if they can come up with some way to put this in real terms for americans, some way to avert the taxes for every american going up in a big way starting tomorrow night. >> so it's no burning the...
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reid wilson, ryan grim, thank you both. we're just moments away from the house beginning their debate on this. well, thank you so much for watching. keep it right here on msnbc as the house officially gets back to work and, of course, happy new year to all. coverage continues on the fiscal cliff vote here on msnbc, the place for politics.
reid wilson, ryan grim, thank you both. we're just moments away from the house beginning their debate on this. well, thank you so much for watching. keep it right here on msnbc as the house officially gets back to work and, of course, happy new year to all. coverage continues on the fiscal cliff vote here on msnbc, the place for politics.
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host: harry reid did not have a role in these negotiations. guest: harry reid could not get his caucus to go along with the threshold. reid was not able to bring along a lot of his members to the deal. so biden stepped in. redid on board now. he refused to put social security on the table. the left is pretty pleased with how harry reid dealt with this. host: nancy pelosi supposedly signing off on this agreement. joe biden got most of the rank- and-file to approve this. now action moves to the house. is michael on twitter -- this is michael on twitter. guest: all revenue measures have to originate in the house. they put in the new language and sending it to the house ought to be approved. which is legal and is a funny tricks they have to do. i expect it to come up to a vote early this afternoon. host: here is a posting from red state. guest: if i were a republican, i would tell my fellow republicans they should get behind this deal. you are taking away the white house's leverage on tax rates. then talk about the sequester. you will be able to w
host: harry reid did not have a role in these negotiations. guest: harry reid could not get his caucus to go along with the threshold. reid was not able to bring along a lot of his members to the deal. so biden stepped in. redid on board now. he refused to put social security on the table. the left is pretty pleased with how harry reid dealt with this. host: nancy pelosi supposedly signing off on this agreement. joe biden got most of the rank- and-file to approve this. now action moves to the...
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the senate majority leader harry reid and john boehner exchange harsh words. the fiscal cliff in just five days and still no deal. the winter storm that slammed the south is now stranding thousands of travelers in the northeast and beyond. that is coming up. >>> and the russian president vladimir putin says he will sign a bill banning americans from adopting russian children. that's all ahead unless breaking news changes everything on "studio b." i'm trace gallagher in for shepard smith. first from fox at 3:00, back to work in washington, d.c. with less than five days to go before falls right off the fiscal cliff. the senate back in session today and it's the first time the senate or house has met for business between christmas and new year's in more than four decades. president obama cut his hawaii trip short arriving in washington early today. for now, the house of representatives is not in session but we've learned those lawmakers are set to return this weekend. today the senate majority leader, harry reid, says we've just about run out of time. >> if we go
the senate majority leader harry reid and john boehner exchange harsh words. the fiscal cliff in just five days and still no deal. the winter storm that slammed the south is now stranding thousands of travelers in the northeast and beyond. that is coming up. >>> and the russian president vladimir putin says he will sign a bill banning americans from adopting russian children. that's all ahead unless breaking news changes everything on "studio b." i'm trace gallagher in for...
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harry reid followed by johnson -- john thune. >> thank you. i was gratified to hear the cuts are off the table. they should never have been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides. negotiations continue. we intend to continue negotiations. we will come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. we will have further announcements. i hope so. >> next, talking about the fiscal cliff. john thune. >> thank you for the update. midafternoon today, senator john thune spoke with reporters on where things stand on the fiscal cliff. >> where do things stand as far as a republican deal? >> republicans advanced a proposal last night and you heard senator mcconnell talk about it on the floor. we're still waiting for a counteroffer. there was an indication we would receive the by 10:00 this morning, but discussions still continue. senator mcconnell and vice president joe biden are continuing to discuss this and we think there still could be a path forward. democrats have come out and made a huge deal out of changing th
harry reid followed by johnson -- john thune. >> thank you. i was gratified to hear the cuts are off the table. they should never have been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides. negotiations continue. we intend to continue negotiations. we will come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. we will have further announcements. i hope so. >> next, talking about the fiscal cliff. john thune. >> thank you for the update. midafternoon...
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hairy reid says the goal was to -- harry reid said the goal was to protect middle class families. >> middle class families are wake up assured their tax won't go you will 2200. they will know how to pay for car payments next year. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell said republicans agreed rather than let middle class suffer. >> we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone but we all knew that if we did nothing they would be going up on everyone today. we weren't going to let that happen. >> reporter: the house reconvenes at noon and is expected to take up the measure at that time. i am ed payne reporting. >>> many couples have been waiting a lifetime for this day. today, same sex couples can legally marry here in maryland. the measure was approved by voters back in november and sherrie johnson is live at city hall where some couples have already tied the knot. it's just five after six. >> reporter: that's right. a big day here in maryland. about 7 same sex couples tied the knot here at city hall in downtown baltimore. a historic day and baltimore mayor stephanie rawlings blake was act
hairy reid says the goal was to -- harry reid said the goal was to protect middle class families. >> middle class families are wake up assured their tax won't go you will 2200. they will know how to pay for car payments next year. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell said republicans agreed rather than let middle class suffer. >> we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone but we all knew that if we did nothing they would be going up on everyone today. we weren't going to let...
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reid is still a part of it. but what you bring with joe biden is those decades of experience, and understanding the mind said of lawmakers. he has been on both sides of deal-making over the years when he had the leverage or didn't have the leverage, and knows what it's like to be in a tight spot and willing to try to work things out and to get creative about finding solutions. what happens in these deals is that you have staffers who are experts in various areas when it comes to tax policy or spending. people who know the budget like the back of their hand. they're really at the table looking for those details. so you might have the big overarching thematic discussions that have been going on for a long time. i've had people in both parties say there is a fundamental trust between joe biden and mitch mcconnell that is helping things along. if that's going well, then it also benefits harry reid and it benefits speaker boehner arguably if people believe there is a sense of good faith going back and forth. they mig
reid is still a part of it. but what you bring with joe biden is those decades of experience, and understanding the mind said of lawmakers. he has been on both sides of deal-making over the years when he had the leverage or didn't have the leverage, and knows what it's like to be in a tight spot and willing to try to work things out and to get creative about finding solutions. what happens in these deals is that you have staffers who are experts in various areas when it comes to tax policy or...
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you are asking the wrong person let's hear what senator harry reid have to say on that. he and boehner went back and forth. let's listen. >> if we come up with something that's not that easy we're dealing with big numbers and some of the stuff that we do is somewhat complicated but i think it was a positive meeting there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would have took an extended period of time as you all know waiting for us. but everybody, this is -- whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less. but that's where we're. and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. we're going to do the best we can for the caucuses that we have and the country waiting for us to make a decision. >> juliet: charles krauthammer made a great point the other day. ultimately the way the president is going to be judged isn't going to be what happens in the next couple of
you are asking the wrong person let's hear what senator harry reid have to say on that. he and boehner went back and forth. let's listen. >> if we come up with something that's not that easy we're dealing with big numbers and some of the stuff that we do is somewhat complicated but i think it was a positive meeting there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would have took an extended period of time as you all...
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we told you yesterday there were rumblings of eagles would fire andy reid after 14 years. masco simmer down. he is the team's winningesten t playoffs since 08. chicago fired loveie smith. i don't get that. norv turner everyone knew that was coming and shurmur got night cleveland. five gms were told to hit the road. >>> slick roads and icy conditions are making it tough for drivers in kansas city. police responded to a number of crashs and a number of cars sliding off the roads. light snow and flurries continued throughout the overnight hours with temperatures falling well into the teens. mike. >> yeah. >> the drivers were told to avoid the slick conditions and stay off the roads. but who list tones that. bab -- listens to that. you are lamenting the loss of andy reid. >> it's tough. who is going to fill his position? >> well, there is the question. >> change for the sake of change never works. >> the devil you know versus the devil you don't. >> bel air not dealing with the snow or ice we showed you in kansas city. it's 40 degrees. it's mild. and a lot of locations are int
we told you yesterday there were rumblings of eagles would fire andy reid after 14 years. masco simmer down. he is the team's winningesten t playoffs since 08. chicago fired loveie smith. i don't get that. norv turner everyone knew that was coming and shurmur got night cleveland. five gms were told to hit the road. >>> slick roads and icy conditions are making it tough for drivers in kansas city. police responded to a number of crashs and a number of cars sliding off the roads. light...
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he has reached out to majority leader reid, and nancy pelosi, to sign off. they gave it. so the white house right now feeling quite confident about this agreement that has been reached. of course, we're talking about the opposition that has been emerging from the left, including labor leaders, he says it is not good enough, why? because the tax rates are not the ones that president obama campaigned on. remember the president campaigned saying that he wanted to see taxes going up on those making $250,000 or more. this of course raises taxes on people making $400,000 or more, if you're single, $450,000 for a couple. so folks on the left saying this is not good enough. but the white house, mitch mcconnell, vice president joe biden believes it is a good deal because it represents compromise on all sides. i also spoke to one of my democratic sources who said look, if you look at the way the sequester has worked out, yes, it has only staved off for two months. however, they are off setting the cuts both through revenue as well as spending cuts. the reason democrats believe it i
he has reached out to majority leader reid, and nancy pelosi, to sign off. they gave it. so the white house right now feeling quite confident about this agreement that has been reached. of course, we're talking about the opposition that has been emerging from the left, including labor leaders, he says it is not good enough, why? because the tax rates are not the ones that president obama campaigned on. remember the president campaigned saying that he wanted to see taxes going up on those making...
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senate majority leader harry reid has the task of trying to cobble something together that could get republican support in the senate and of course, also, some republican support in the house in order for this to pass congress. the white house has gone back to s bargaining position of wanting tax rates to expire for those over $250,000 a year. it seems unlikely that republicans would sign on to something like that, making it a significant possibility, hearing from democrats and republicans, we could go over this fiscal cliff, alina. >> brianna, you talk about cobbling together a last-minute deal. the president admits there will be no grand bargain at this point. if there is something sort of cobbled together at the last minute, are you getting an indication the president would come back from hawaii early? >> reporter: i think that's the expectation. officially, he's supposed to be here through the new year, but folks at the white house are pretty honest about the fact that he likely will be returning to washington around the time the senate reconvenes. it's really just a matter of wh
senate majority leader harry reid has the task of trying to cobble something together that could get republican support in the senate and of course, also, some republican support in the house in order for this to pass congress. the white house has gone back to s bargaining position of wanting tax rates to expire for those over $250,000 a year. it seems unlikely that republicans would sign on to something like that, making it a significant possibility, hearing from democrats and republicans, we...
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harry reid and mitch mcconnell are the key players. he sounded frustrated after not receiving a counter-offer. a key member of the leadership team offered this update. >> offeringses and discussions between and we remain hopeful that will get a breakthrough. obviously what happened here between the two leaders in the senate had broken down because the senate democrats failed to come forward with a counter offer to the proposal the republicans made last night. hopefully the discussions between the.and senator mcconnell will get us on track. >> republican aides recognize the consequences if it falls apart. everybody gets a tax increase in 48 hours. >> well, it's less than 48 hours now. i'm wonder, are the democrats fighting among themself? >> there's a battle over social security. republicans are including a new way of calculating inflation to lower payments to recipients of social security. democrats had could consider it if it's part of a $4 trillion package. now republicans say it's off the table and key democrats are hopeful senate l
harry reid and mitch mcconnell are the key players. he sounded frustrated after not receiving a counter-offer. a key member of the leadership team offered this update. >> offeringses and discussions between and we remain hopeful that will get a breakthrough. obviously what happened here between the two leaders in the senate had broken down because the senate democrats failed to come forward with a counter offer to the proposal the republicans made last night. hopefully the discussions...
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are expecting to hear from republican leader mitch mcconnell, maybe even senate majority leader harry reid, as of now so far as we know there is no fiscal cliff deal, but negotiations primarily betweens those two men are going on even as we speak or between their staffs. we're hearing a new sense of optimism from some senate members who believe they might be able to pass some kind of minimalist package that would keep tax rates from going up on the majority of americans. i want to go to capitol hill and cnn's senior congressional correspondent dana bash. dana, is that the sense you get that somehow we should be optimistic about whatever it is that's going on? >> you know, as we talked about before, you definitely get a feeling or the atmosphere here is that there is progress being made but in the same breath, but, there are still thingsing to worked out. as we wait for what we generally see when the senate opens which is the pledge of allegiance, a prayer and so forth, if you see the bottom of your screen, i'm not sure if you can see it, white hair, that is harry reid, the senate majority
are expecting to hear from republican leader mitch mcconnell, maybe even senate majority leader harry reid, as of now so far as we know there is no fiscal cliff deal, but negotiations primarily betweens those two men are going on even as we speak or between their staffs. we're hearing a new sense of optimism from some senate members who believe they might be able to pass some kind of minimalist package that would keep tax rates from going up on the majority of americans. i want to go to capitol...
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mcconnell basically said to reid i can't help on this one. how did harry reid respond? this way. >> speaker boehner should call members of the house back to washington today. he shouldn't have let them go, in fact. they're not here. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> right. so that's pretty much where we are now. boehner's out, mcconnell's out. reid says it's up to boehner, white house can't get boehner to talk to them. it's kind of a mess, senator schatz. and it is now part of your party. so what is the next move? there is late news tonight that president obama will convene a meeting of congressional leaders at the white house tomorrow afternoon to discuss the current impasse. and to give you a spirit of the compromise and sense of goodwill toward men in which republican house speaker john boehner is approaching this meeting here is a statement we were e-mailed by brendan bock. "tomorrow speaker boehner will attend a meeting where he will continue to stress that th
mcconnell basically said to reid i can't help on this one. how did harry reid respond? this way. >> speaker boehner should call members of the house back to washington today. he shouldn't have let them go, in fact. they're not here. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> right. so that's pretty much where we are now. boehner's out, mcconnell's out. reid says it's up to boehner,...
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cuts short his vacation and the senate returns tomorrow we'll look whether democratic leader harry reid will have a plan c ready to go and rumors after $400 billion price tag. >> big chunk of change. we're eyeing a massive winter storms that spawned at least last night this deadly tornado. as it moves north, that storm we'll look at the danger it poses for many americans especially if you're trying to travel anywhere today. folks there living through rare holiday twisters react to a christmas day storm they say they will never forget. >> i've never seen one in real life. just to be able to hear one from that far away, it is about a mile from where we are and you could still hear it. it was, it was pretty amazing. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! kelly: "fox business alert." with just days until taxes go up on almost every american, there's a growing debate out there over whether top se
cuts short his vacation and the senate returns tomorrow we'll look whether democratic leader harry reid will have a plan c ready to go and rumors after $400 billion price tag. >> big chunk of change. we're eyeing a massive winter storms that spawned at least last night this deadly tornado. as it moves north, that storm we'll look at the danger it poses for many americans especially if you're trying to travel anywhere today. folks there living through rare holiday twisters react to a...
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the majority leader mitch mcconnell and minority leader, harry reid reid. the majority leader. here is what we heard off-camara. apparently mcconnell said he spoke with vice president joe biden at 6:30 a.m. this morning. at 12:45 last night, which is technically a.m. asked if he was going to talk with him again? he said we'll get back. he was mum on whether he had spoken to senator harry reid. if something will be on the floor today and his optimism level, really just not talking about that so far. so we'll wait and see. heather: secretary of state hillary clinton's recent health problems taking a turn for the worst. secretary clinton is currently in a new york hospital today undergoing treatment for a blood clot. the condition stemming from a concussion that she sustained earlier this month and joining us now, the chief of division of robotics at mt. sinai hospital and a fox news medical a-teamer. thanks so much for joining us. >> sure, heather. heather: what i said in the introduction is just about all we know because a lot of information is not being released about this. can
the majority leader mitch mcconnell and minority leader, harry reid reid. the majority leader. here is what we heard off-camara. apparently mcconnell said he spoke with vice president joe biden at 6:30 a.m. this morning. at 12:45 last night, which is technically a.m. asked if he was going to talk with him again? he said we'll get back. he was mum on whether he had spoken to senator harry reid. if something will be on the floor today and his optimism level, really just not talking about that so...
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harry reid is there. let's hope that they get there and for the sake of the country for the sake of our stability of our fiscal well, they get together on a plan that works. nobody will get 100% of what they want. hopefully somebody -- we get enough of what we want to keep the wheels turning. >> ana, do you think speaker boehner's leadership is suffering while this crisis continues? >> you know, i think a little bit of both to be honest with you. certainly he tried to get something from his caucus last week. that didn't work. that was not a strong moment for him. it was a moment of weakness. but at the same time, i think he looks like he's really trying. and it also paints the picture and makes it obvious that, you know, he's not just negotiating with president obama. he also has to then come back and sell to his own people, sell to his own caucus, which at points may be even more difficult than negotiating with the white house. so it tells us all just how complex a situation we are dealing with. >> now,
harry reid is there. let's hope that they get there and for the sake of the country for the sake of our stability of our fiscal well, they get together on a plan that works. nobody will get 100% of what they want. hopefully somebody -- we get enough of what we want to keep the wheels turning. >> ana, do you think speaker boehner's leadership is suffering while this crisis continues? >> you know, i think a little bit of both to be honest with you. certainly he tried to get something...
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and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >> i thi >> reporter: i think there is much more of a concern. a couple of weeks ago, you talk to folks not only in the administration but on the hill, there was a thought that this may be averted. now i do think there is more pessimism. you're hearing that publicly, hala. that's also what is going on behind the s
and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be...
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many assume that is what will happen if harry reid put the president's plan on the floor. the negotiations over that are a big sticking point. i have heard from republicans that it may have gone as high as $500,000. they say they are negotiating but they will not say the number. i hear it may be as high as $500,000. >> thank you for the update. midafternoon today, senator john thune spoke with reporters on where things stand on the fiscal cliff. >> where do things stand as far as a republican deal? >> republicans advanced a proposal last night and you heard senator mcconnell talk about it on the floor. we're still waiting for a counteroffer. there was an indication we would receive the by 10:00 this morning, but discussions still continue. senator mcconnell and vice president joe biden are continuing to discuss this and we think there still could be a path forward. democrats have come out and made a huge deal out of changing this and republicans are very concerned that it should not be used as an offset to reduce or replace some of the spending cuts that would occur and de
many assume that is what will happen if harry reid put the president's plan on the floor. the negotiations over that are a big sticking point. i have heard from republicans that it may have gone as high as $500,000. they say they are negotiating but they will not say the number. i hear it may be as high as $500,000. >> thank you for the update. midafternoon today, senator john thune spoke with reporters on where things stand on the fiscal cliff. >> where do things stand as far as a...
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senate majority leader harry reid has not moved anything. so far they are moving on. going over the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, the president talked about it today. >> democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done. but they are not there yet. they are close. but they're not there yet. and one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you are supposed to do, they will use that second. >> we will continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending but let's not let that hold up and protect americans from the tax hike to take place in ten hours. ten hours from now. we can do this. we must do this. >> bret: it's not clear whether they can. it's not clear whether that is all of them believe they must. bring in the panel. jonah goldburg. kirsten powers if for daily beast. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. begin with the president's statement today that happened mid-day. he framed it as ed henry said as campaign style event. middle class families behind him. didn't have a lo
senate majority leader harry reid has not moved anything. so far they are moving on. going over the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, the president talked about it today. >> democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done. but they are not there yet. they are close. but they're not there yet. and one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you are supposed to do, they will use that second. >> we will...
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>> didn't reid say it's not on the table? >> yes. >> every bipartisan proposal does include those changes. >> understand what we're talking about is a short-term deal. dr. sachs is right, we have to get to simpson-bowles -- and michael is right -- we have to get to the framework of simpson-bowles to really solve the debt crisis. we haven't even taken a shot at that. we've wasted two months. we've kicked the can down the road. when we have to come to grips with the long term, yes, there has to be a framework along the lines of simpson-bowles. >> okay. so first of all, everyone understands how serious this is. and for those who are clueing in, those who are worried about their own personal economies, this is what's at stake. according to the congressional budget office, a fall over the fiscal cliff, which would happen at midnight tonight, would shrink the u.s. economy next year by a half a percent. unemployment would rise to 9.1%. the bush-era tax cuts would expire, hiking taxes in every bracket by an average of $3,400. america
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. >> reporter: mayor reid is expected to arrive in several minutes and many see this as an insult and they can't believe he would come here and thank them because they say the way he has -- say the way he has treated the department. this is an annual tradition for him to recognize and public speak to them. moral is low in the department and the mayor has been unpopular with officers ever since he rechampioned their pension plans. they are fighting back and there has been enough officers retiring and releaving. we also learned 30 officers found the homicide rate has reached its highest level in 20 years and property crimes are on the rise. back out here live, we plan on talking to the mayor about how he feels what the officers are saying behind his back and what his goals are for the coming year. reporting live from san jose ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> it has reopened following ahead on collision where for people were killed on highway 12 of vista. they are not releasing any details about the crash or if alcohol was involved. >>> law enforcement agencies were crackdown on drunk dr
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assume the house amends it, does harry reid even take it up? it depends what the amendment looks like. if it's going to be a significant spending cut, you have to understand, these negotiations are like jinga. piece upon piece upon piece. if you take something out, the whole thing can fall apart, and honestly, a spending cut amendment, especially one that would be accepted by all house republicans or a lot of the house republicans probably would hurt and blow away the carefully constructed compromise that was crafted and voted on early this morning. it's possible they could do it tomorrow because there's one day left. this congressional session expired 11:59 thursday. >> thank you so much. we hope they're not playing jangg on capitol hill but you did make it understandable for us. right now the country remains without a deal. we'll go to break and we'll join programming already in process. rachel maddow right after this. to turn it around, and we did. aig? we sa woman: we're helping joplin, missouri, come back from a devastating tornado. man: a
assume the house amends it, does harry reid even take it up? it depends what the amendment looks like. if it's going to be a significant spending cut, you have to understand, these negotiations are like jinga. piece upon piece upon piece. if you take something out, the whole thing can fall apart, and honestly, a spending cut amendment, especially one that would be accepted by all house republicans or a lot of the house republicans probably would hurt and blow away the carefully constructed...
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>> well, i wasn't able to hear what harry reid just said because we were on the air. and i had the piece in my ear. so i don't know exactly any other time table he gave. but what i mentioned as you and i talked a few minutes ago was the republican source was telling me expect the negotiations to keep going, that we weren't going to get a deal immediately, that things have to be scored and prepared and then members have to get briefed. so we'll go deeper in to the day in terms of this process and when any potential votes might happen, but i would expect that if biden and mcconnell spoke at 6:30 this morning, their staffs are probably buttoning up the results of that phone call. there may be more phone calls. and then when they have got a deal, when they have it scored and agreed upon, they will come out and we'll all know it pretty quickly. but not just yet. >> reid says fiscal cliff negotiations continue. differences remain. mcconnell is not on the floor. good sign? too busy working things out in the back room somewhere? >> i would think that's a good sign. if you're
>> well, i wasn't able to hear what harry reid just said because we were on the air. and i had the piece in my ear. so i don't know exactly any other time table he gave. but what i mentioned as you and i talked a few minutes ago was the republican source was telling me expect the negotiations to keep going, that we weren't going to get a deal immediately, that things have to be scored and prepared and then members have to get briefed. so we'll go deeper in to the day in terms of this...
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when it got to the house it got stuck, so senator inhofe and i and senator reid went over to meet with john boehner and chairman mica and we all agreed we'd get it done. neither side got everything they want and anyone who takes that position in my opinion is not putting country first. i don't care whether they are republican, a democrat, or anything else. we are not each of us going to get everything we want. lord knows. there's a lot i could do if i had a wand and could make it happen. but everybody has a different view of exactly how to go forward and i think we're being tested here. so i know it's tough going, and i know if we don't get a deal, it doesn't stop there, we'll keep on working. but there is no reason on this beautiful god's green earth why we can't get a deal here. if everyone is sincere in saying they want the middle class could be protected, we can get a deal here. president obama says $250,000 is the line, maybe i think $350,000 is the line, maybe someone else $500,000, maybe somebody else $150,000. we can meet somewhere and cut that reason somewhere in the middle. a
when it got to the house it got stuck, so senator inhofe and i and senator reid went over to meet with john boehner and chairman mica and we all agreed we'd get it done. neither side got everything they want and anyone who takes that position in my opinion is not putting country first. i don't care whether they are republican, a democrat, or anything else. we are not each of us going to get everything we want. lord knows. there's a lot i could do if i had a wand and could make it happen. but...
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all of those have been on leader reid's desk, and my question is why would he let it sit there? when you have paperwork on your desk, and let's say this is your employee, and the paperwork is marked on the desk urgent and some hitting in may and august and why not take it up. >> plenty of blame to go around, but last week, and go back a week ago -- >> okay. >> and when john boehner came up with what i kept seeing the pictures of john boehner and president obama sitting together and very good picture and they are both good guys to come up with a plan, and john boehner came up with a plan that democrats would not enjoy the idea that taxes going up on people earning more than $1 million a year and not acceptable for most people, but he could not get members of his own caucus to agree to it, so it is not fair for the republicans to somehow suggest that we are here because of the democrats. i am not saying that the democrats had nothing to do with it, but you can't get your own act together, and the republicans and the democrats in the house can't get their act together. >> well, we
all of those have been on leader reid's desk, and my question is why would he let it sit there? when you have paperwork on your desk, and let's say this is your employee, and the paperwork is marked on the desk urgent and some hitting in may and august and why not take it up. >> plenty of blame to go around, but last week, and go back a week ago -- >> okay. >> and when john boehner came up with what i kept seeing the pictures of john boehner and president obama sitting...
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. >> reporter: if these talks fail overnight, senate majority leader harry reid says he'll push a white house fall back bill, raising taxes only on families making over $250,000 a year, and also extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans, that could face an up or down vote in monday's session. >> we're going to come in 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, and we'll have further announcements perhaps at 11:00 in the morning. i certainly hope so. >> reporter: so much at stake for your wallet. because if we go off the fiscal cliff, it will be the largest tax increase since world war ii. not to mention the fact that if there's no deal, the markets may react in a very negative way. at the white house, ed henry, fox news. >>> let's bring in fox 5's political analyst mark plotkin for more insight. good to see you. >> good to be here. >> despite the setback, both sides are saying there will be a deal. i'm wondering, is there political theater, and if so, what does it aid? >> i think a deal will be minimal. both parties are concerned that they will look bad. right now polls show that the publi
. >> reporter: if these talks fail overnight, senate majority leader harry reid says he'll push a white house fall back bill, raising taxes only on families making over $250,000 a year, and also extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans, that could face an up or down vote in monday's session. >> we're going to come in 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, and we'll have further announcements perhaps at 11:00 in the morning. i certainly hope so. >> reporter: so much at stake...
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. >> one last question, harry reid said if you can't put something by tonight, he will put a scaled down version of what the president has asked for with regard to tax cuts on the senate planned for of course that is raising taxes on everybody making above $250,000 a year. do you think, knowing your republican colleagues, that enough republicans will cross over the democratic side and allow that to pass, if -- even if it's 60 votes needed? >> you know, it's hard to say until we know exactly what might be in it. this -- this is what i would say about that. if that's where we end up and if he decides to move a bill onto the floor and maybe could pick up the house passed extension of all the rates, hr-8, as a vehicle for that he ought to open it up to the amendment process, give us an opportunity to debate some of these things that we think ought to be a part of t what he will more than likely do, if history is any guide in this, is take a bill and felt amendment tree and prevent republicans from having an opportunity to offer amendments. think we would welcome an opportunity to have a deba
. >> one last question, harry reid said if you can't put something by tonight, he will put a scaled down version of what the president has asked for with regard to tax cuts on the senate planned for of course that is raising taxes on everybody making above $250,000 a year. do you think, knowing your republican colleagues, that enough republicans will cross over the democratic side and allow that to pass, if -- even if it's 60 votes needed? >> you know, it's hard to say until we know...
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senator harry reid says they are waiting for the coo as well. let's go to nbc's kristen welker at the white house. tell us what you are hearing from your sources there? >> good evening, milissa. according to chuck todd, breaking details from that meeting that vice president biden just had. no one in the meeting said they were planning to vote against this bull once it does move through the senate, it doesn't mean they won't. they didn't voice opposition during that meeting, so that is significant this idea there is some liberal revolve doesn't seem to be coming to the floor, the vice president's agreement received very well. and speculation it could get as many as 80 votes. the vice president putting to caucus members this way. the second part of a three-part process. first was the budget control act. this deals with the issue of taxes, something that president obama has been talking since 2008. campaigned on this issue in 2012, and the third part will be that march trifecta, when you are going to have both the budget to deal with as well as the
senator harry reid says they are waiting for the coo as well. let's go to nbc's kristen welker at the white house. tell us what you are hearing from your sources there? >> good evening, milissa. according to chuck todd, breaking details from that meeting that vice president biden just had. no one in the meeting said they were planning to vote against this bull once it does move through the senate, it doesn't mean they won't. they didn't voice opposition during that meeting, so that is...
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harry reid has been meeting with his caucus. republicans have been meeting on their side and the senate should be coming back in this afternoon as well. what would you give up in the fiscal cliff negotiations? let's go first to bridgeport, connecticut. thanks for waiting. >> i was thinking the republicans should drop the cpi issue that they have been discussing. it seems to me that they're working on getting it worked our for the estate tax. >> the chain on the consumer price index was a point of contention raised on the house floor. the reporting from politico earlier about the loggerheads' this afternoon, they say that the provision would result in lower payments for social security beneficiaries. boston, the independent go ahead. >> most companies in the u.s. are now headquartered in toronto. they make their profit in bermuda. we're spending 47 cents on the dollar on the deficit. we will have to do like canada and put a tax on gasoline. what is your opinion? what should we do to fulfill the debt and our obligation? >> what is
harry reid has been meeting with his caucus. republicans have been meeting on their side and the senate should be coming back in this afternoon as well. what would you give up in the fiscal cliff negotiations? let's go first to bridgeport, connecticut. thanks for waiting. >> i was thinking the republicans should drop the cpi issue that they have been discussing. it seems to me that they're working on getting it worked our for the estate tax. >> the chain on the consumer price index...
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that's harry reid. but if you wait until the last minute, you'll have situations like we have now. it didn't have to be this way. we acted months ago. i'm sorry the senate didn't choose to do so and i'm sorry the administration didn't ask them to do so. >> sam stein, go ahead. >> congressman, i just have a question about sort of the long-term strategy for the congressional republicans, because obviously, in 2011, there was a chance, there was a deal possibly out there that included not just cpi, but the raising of the medicare eligibility age. looking back at that, and of course, looking back at two weeks ago where it was again on the table, do you think there were missed opportunities there by leadership in the congressional republican party? >> i don't know if there were missed opportunities, but again, i'm a big believer in solving problems one step at a time, and i think one thing we have learned is this elusive grand bargain isn't likely to happen between this administration and this congress. it can't seem to think that big and do that big a thing at once. i'm sorry. i wish i
that's harry reid. but if you wait until the last minute, you'll have situations like we have now. it didn't have to be this way. we acted months ago. i'm sorry the senate didn't choose to do so and i'm sorry the administration didn't ask them to do so. >> sam stein, go ahead. >> congressman, i just have a question about sort of the long-term strategy for the congressional republicans, because obviously, in 2011, there was a chance, there was a deal possibly out there that included...
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according to harry reid, they are still waiting for cbo, they have to get a prize take price e congressional budget office on the deal put on the table. i am not sure if richardson is in place, but this is the deal that we have been talking about throughout the day at fox business, that would raise taxes on individuals risen $400,000 or more. married couples $450,000 or more, as we learn later this evening this is the same deal that will have a buy down. keep the sequestration, the spending cuts that take place at 12:01, put on hold for two months, but that won't happen until you have to have the senate passed it an in the house passed it. we have seen no movement in the house because the house has not been given any details or any paper as they would say as to deal the senate is looking at right now. you're seeing a live picture outside one of the meeting rooms, this is the ohio clock, this is where usually get statements from harry reid and different members of the senate, but we did receive a message from charles schumer a vote taking place but midnight on the deal of earning the big tax
according to harry reid, they are still waiting for cbo, they have to get a prize take price e congressional budget office on the deal put on the table. i am not sure if richardson is in place, but this is the deal that we have been talking about throughout the day at fox business, that would raise taxes on individuals risen $400,000 or more. married couples $450,000 or more, as we learn later this evening this is the same deal that will have a buy down. keep the sequestration, the spending...
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i assume you agree if harry reid and mitch mcconnell put it on the floor and there's a vote, it will pass the senate despite your objection? >> i think it will pass with bipartisan support in the senate. the house is more unpredictable, but once democrats sign onboard in the house, it should pass as well. it's going to require democrats and republicans probably in both bodies in order to pass. i personally don't like it because i think we're kicking the can down the road and we aren't addressing the real crisis in the country which really, to tell you the truth, was not the fiscal cliff that everybody is talking about. it's a debt crisis where we're spending over a trillion each year that we don't have, where we now owe more per person than they do in greece. in some measurements we're worse off than greece now, and this deal will do nothing to help reduce the deficit. >> happy new year to you and everyone out there. thank you for joining us. pass along my best regards to your dad as well. >>> ali velshi is still with us. i know you disagree strongly with some of the comments that we
i assume you agree if harry reid and mitch mcconnell put it on the floor and there's a vote, it will pass the senate despite your objection? >> i think it will pass with bipartisan support in the senate. the house is more unpredictable, but once democrats sign onboard in the house, it should pass as well. it's going to require democrats and republicans probably in both bodies in order to pass. i personally don't like it because i think we're kicking the can down the road and we aren't...
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they said let senate majority leader harry reid take over. there is definitely frustration in the house that it's come to this point this late in 2012 as we are heading over the fiscal cliff potentially. bottom line some some suggested there is not a tax problem in the united states, there is a major spending problem. >> history has a way of repeating itself. somehow washington never gets the message, and here we are 30 years later on the brink of another crisis on new year's eve, still addicted to spending money. >> madame speaker the american people are looking at congress with distain and rightfully so. with the deadline on the fiscal cliff only hours away we've failed to reach a reasonable compromise to move the economy forward and ward off painful tax hikes on the middle class. >> reporter: so everybody is waiting to see if the senate can reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. it's not entirely clear when the house would act. i talked to a key leadership aide who he said if the senate passes a deal we could certainly signal that we will take
they said let senate majority leader harry reid take over. there is definitely frustration in the house that it's come to this point this late in 2012 as we are heading over the fiscal cliff potentially. bottom line some some suggested there is not a tax problem in the united states, there is a major spending problem. >> history has a way of repeating itself. somehow washington never gets the message, and here we are 30 years later on the brink of another crisis on new year's eve, still...
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i'm hearing harry reid would essentially laugh at that and say are you kidding me? we spent this time, joe biden and mitch mcconnell spent all this time trying to get an agreement. what are we supposed to do with this? this leaves the question out there, could we go over the fiscal cliff entirely? we are teetering on the edge from where we stand now, it's a good possibility. i will say though, if john boehner wanted to take this bill and put it to the floor without amendments, essentially having a p profile in courage moment t would probably pass. from the republican i spoke to in the room, they said if there's an appetite for folks who have been around here for a while to get this over with, they can live to fight another day on the debt limit and on the government funding bill. but this would be a pr disaster for republicans. there is nowhere else for this bill to go. if the house gop tries to administration this with this short amount of time left, they feel, this member spoke to me and folks close to the speaker, they feel the claim woublame wo them. the sandy s
i'm hearing harry reid would essentially laugh at that and say are you kidding me? we spent this time, joe biden and mitch mcconnell spent all this time trying to get an agreement. what are we supposed to do with this? this leaves the question out there, could we go over the fiscal cliff entirely? we are teetering on the edge from where we stand now, it's a good possibility. i will say though, if john boehner wanted to take this bill and put it to the floor without amendments, essentially...
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you know, what's going on here appears to be that senator reid, the democratic leader is playing bad cop and joe biden is playing good cop. he certainly has a long history of talks and bipartisan negotiations with mitch mcconnell. i want to, over the past hour, we have spoken to two republican senators, i wanted to talk to claire mccaskill, thanks very much for joining us, they just ended their almost two-hour meeting, martin, two hours, what was going on in there behind those door? >> i know you will be shocked to hear that a lot of senators wanted to talk. >> that is shocking. >> everyone wanted to have their same i think the consensus is that we all still want to try to get a deal but some of us are very discouraged that what appears to be on the table now doesn't really do anything to reduce the deficit and this was all supposed to be an exercise in bringing down our deficit and our long-term debt and where we are right now, it doesn't appear that we are getting that done and even more importantly, it appears that republicans are still trying to protect the tippy top as opposed t
you know, what's going on here appears to be that senator reid, the democratic leader is playing bad cop and joe biden is playing good cop. he certainly has a long history of talks and bipartisan negotiations with mitch mcconnell. i want to, over the past hour, we have spoken to two republican senators, i wanted to talk to claire mccaskill, thanks very much for joining us, they just ended their almost two-hour meeting, martin, two hours, what was going on in there behind those door? >> i...
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and senator reid saying that that is what the delay is. as you look at reporters including our own chad pergram waiting around there for more info. also senator joe lieberman independent from connecticut who caucuses with the democrats says there will be a vote tonight on this package which means that there will be a vote in the senate tonight. the house has adjourned until tomorrow. joining me now, a.b. stoddard with "the hill." your thoughts on this, the latest developments? >> well, bret, everyone wanted to make this sound hopeful in the last few hours and there is still hope something can get done on time or even before the new congress is sworn on thursday but senate democrats are unhappy. house democrats are unhappy, they think the white house gave too much away on marginal rates and the estate tax and we are hearing word from house republicans one top leadership aide told me it is a piece of junk what is coming over from the senate so far that they know. they haven't seen paper or a vote. we are still a long way to go as these thing
and senator reid saying that that is what the delay is. as you look at reporters including our own chad pergram waiting around there for more info. also senator joe lieberman independent from connecticut who caucuses with the democrats says there will be a vote tonight on this package which means that there will be a vote in the senate tonight. the house has adjourned until tomorrow. joining me now, a.b. stoddard with "the hill." your thoughts on this, the latest developments?...
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it was senator reid at one time. now it's senator mcconnell and vice president biden. but up until friday, senator mcconnell, the republican leader, hadn't been consulted, hadn't been advised, hadn't been involved in any of this. so he gets the call at the last minute to try to come in and sort of rescue this, starts a negotiation that goes over the weekend, and then saturday night makes a proposal to the senate democrats and was told that we'll react to your proposal by 10:00 sunday morning. 10:00 sunday morning passes, 11:00, noon, 1:00, 2:00. he comes to the floor and says we haven't heard back. then the majority leader says look, we don't have a counteroffer. we don't have a proposal. so senator mcconnell then gets on the phone with vice president biden, and that's now where those discussions are occurring. they're occurring between vice president biden and senator mcconnell. but my point, mr. president, is this, there are two people in a room deciding incredibly consequential issues for this country while 99 other united states senators and 435 members of the hous
it was senator reid at one time. now it's senator mcconnell and vice president biden. but up until friday, senator mcconnell, the republican leader, hadn't been consulted, hadn't been advised, hadn't been involved in any of this. so he gets the call at the last minute to try to come in and sort of rescue this, starts a negotiation that goes over the weekend, and then saturday night makes a proposal to the senate democrats and was told that we'll react to your proposal by 10:00 sunday morning....
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harry reid and mitch mcconnell. that seems to be what's happening, although vice president biden has stepped in because reid can't hold his group together. >> republican congressman of georgia, jack kingston. thank you for your time. >> thanks, chris. >>> president obama will be making a statement on the fiscal cliff moments from now at 1:30 eastern time. stay with us for live coverage of that. next, an update on secretary of state hillary clinton's health scare. >>> minutes from now medicine prez obama will make a statement about the state of the fiscal cliff negotiations. stay with us for live coverage of it. >>> meantime, secretary of state hillary clinton is under observation at new york -- at a new york city hospital today. her spokesman says she was admitted sunday for a blood clot stemming from the concussion she sustained during a recent bout with the stomach flu. nbc's chief science and health correspondent bob bazell is at new york presbyterian hospital where secretary clinton is being treated. bob, i know
harry reid and mitch mcconnell. that seems to be what's happening, although vice president biden has stepped in because reid can't hold his group together. >> republican congressman of georgia, jack kingston. thank you for your time. >> thanks, chris. >>> president obama will be making a statement on the fiscal cliff moments from now at 1:30 eastern time. stay with us for live coverage of that. next, an update on secretary of state hillary clinton's health scare....
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reid calls boehner a dictator. ah, the holiday spirit. it is alive and well here. >>> i'm steve kornacki in new york. doesn't matter where you are. we are going to slide down the slope if a deal isn't reached. some faster than others. today, what you don't hear in all of this. straight talk when it comes to your wallet. >>> i'm toure. a big day today. anti-fragile. chaos can be good. oh, we'll make them mad today. >> maybe a little too much chaos for us who's still feeling under the weather, s.e. but we have a whole hour of "the cycle" starting right now. >>> it's basketball thursday here on "the cycle" and we have a classic for you as we relate dr. nasmith to the fiscal whatever here in washington. we take you to washington for last night's cavaliers-wizards game, a classic between the boehner-led cavs at 6-23 against the harry reid wizards at 3-22. pay attention, kornacki. cleveland won. the final was 87-84. this even though cleveland's best player irving missed 9 out of 10 shots in the second half and missed 4 out of 6 free-throws with
reid calls boehner a dictator. ah, the holiday spirit. it is alive and well here. >>> i'm steve kornacki in new york. doesn't matter where you are. we are going to slide down the slope if a deal isn't reached. some faster than others. today, what you don't hear in all of this. straight talk when it comes to your wallet. >>> i'm toure. a big day today. anti-fragile. chaos can be good. oh, we'll make them mad today. >> maybe a little too much chaos for us who's still...
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john boehner shot back saying that reid needs to talk less and legislate more. but really this comes down to working out, cobbling together something that can get support. president obama wants that tax cut threshold to be at $250,000. well, mitch mcconnell poured some cold water on that yesterday. so they need to come to some sort of agreement on where the threshold would be. we don't know what it would be yet in the senate. >> 250,000 for the democratic side and republicans couldn't even agree on a million. that's a $750,000 gap they have to close. let's hope they do that. thank you. >>> commanders in chief past and present paying tribute to retired general norman schwarzkopf this morning. the commander of coalition forces during the gulf war died yesterday at 78. schwarzkopf was the face of military briefings during the first cable news war. former president george h.w. bush who is hospitalized, said the general was a true american patriot, one of the great military leaders of this generation. >>> new york city police are looking for a woman who pushed a man
john boehner shot back saying that reid needs to talk less and legislate more. but really this comes down to working out, cobbling together something that can get support. president obama wants that tax cut threshold to be at $250,000. well, mitch mcconnell poured some cold water on that yesterday. so they need to come to some sort of agreement on where the threshold would be. we don't know what it would be yet in the senate. >> 250,000 for the democratic side and republicans couldn't...
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joining the president and vice president, boehner, pelosi, reid and mcconnell. their goal, agree on something before the country falls off the so-called fiscal cliff in four days. kelly o'donnell joining me live now and i understand we have information on the smaller offer that you reported that the president is making this information. >> reporter: good afternoon, craig. so they're going to meet, they need something to talk about the president is prepared to put on the table what aides describe as a smaller offer. you know, they had hoped to go for something much grander but with the 11th hour deadline, they want to do something to follow the lines of what the president said in the briefing room before going to hawaii for the holidays. basically resetting the discussion for income rates at the threshold he originally wanted, $250,000 for couples. why that's important is because in previous conversations with speaker boehner, the president had moved off that number to something more friendly to the republican party, putting the number at about $400,000 and peopl
joining the president and vice president, boehner, pelosi, reid and mcconnell. their goal, agree on something before the country falls off the so-called fiscal cliff in four days. kelly o'donnell joining me live now and i understand we have information on the smaller offer that you reported that the president is making this information. >> reporter: good afternoon, craig. so they're going to meet, they need something to talk about the president is prepared to put on the table what aides...
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juliet: jumping over harry reid. steve: harry reid was not returning phone calls. mitch mcconnell said i will eliminate the middleman. here is the senate minority leader why i' friday to do something he does not like which is raise taxes? >> i know i can speak for my entire conference we say we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone. we all knew if we did nothing, they would be going up on everyone today. each of us could spend the rest of the week discussing what a perfect solution would have looked like but the end result would have been the largest tax increase in american history. so it took an imperfect solution to prevent our constituents from a very real financial pain. juliet: remember, a deal only cuts 15 billion in spending. 15 billion. steve: raises over 600 billion in taxes. this morning we've been talking about it extensively. that is for everyone dollar cut, they jack up taxes $41. if you're against raising taxes, that's, you would think that's a deal breaker. brian: steve, earlier we talked to john tamney from realclearmarkets.com. he was e-m
juliet: jumping over harry reid. steve: harry reid was not returning phone calls. mitch mcconnell said i will eliminate the middleman. here is the senate minority leader why i' friday to do something he does not like which is raise taxes? >> i know i can speak for my entire conference we say we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone. we all knew if we did nothing, they would be going up on everyone today. each of us could spend the rest of the week discussing what a perfect...